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Post 1 by BellatrixLestrange (I'm here to give everyone a hard time lol!) on Sunday, 13-Nov-2016 12:04:59

Hey all,
Here is a poem that I would like to share with you guys. I am currently going through some shit in life but you will understand more as you read on. Enjoy!

My Love

Today I have a broken heart, my life is now falling apart.
I feel I know this shit is real, not sure how I will deal.
They’re taking my little boy, my one great pride and joy.
I didn’t have really any choice, no one heard my voice.
The wound is deep, I cannot sleep.
My bond with him is severed, but hopefully not forever.
Though he and I are divided, we shall soon be reunited.

Post 2 by Shepherdwolf (I've now got the bronze prolific poster award! now going for the silver award!) on Sunday, 13-Nov-2016 12:47:48

So, I'm assuming that someone has taken your child away from you? To me, this is the more central issue than the poem itself. I feel for you, whatever the reasons for this choice might have been.

Post 3 by BellatrixLestrange (I'm here to give everyone a hard time lol!) on Sunday, 13-Nov-2016 13:33:20

Yes they are taking him today they say it's temporary but what upsets me is no one discussed it with me till almost last minute. I talked to my parents and they said I had rights and they should have not been allowed to do this...

Post 4 by Shepherdwolf (I've now got the bronze prolific poster award! now going for the silver award!) on Sunday, 13-Nov-2016 13:37:08

On what grounds are they taking him? They have to provide paperwork with reasons/supporting documentation. They can't just show up and take him and not give you info, that's simply not legal.

Regarding being told though, that's not necessarily true. If they feel a child is in a bad situation, you don't have to be given a whole ton of warning, from what I know. They have to do it right, but that doesn't mean giving you weeks of heads-up.

Post 5 by BellatrixLestrange (I'm here to give everyone a hard time lol!) on Sunday, 13-Nov-2016 13:46:24

there's not too much evidence against me just that they said he needs to socialize with other kids since there's none around here in our neighborhood his age and he needs to eat better since he's underweight also there's more people around to give him attention. It'sbest for him in the end but still I have been told I have the right to know and all and I should have had a say so.

Post 6 by AgateRain (Believe it or not, everything on me and about me is real!) on Sunday, 13-Nov-2016 16:31:39

Maybe you can use this time to go get you some training at either LCB, CCB, or Blind Inc. From the sounds of it, you could not cook to feed him, you couldn't take him to the park, etc. You have no excuse not to do this now. You will also have 9 months to get your housing situation straight as well.

Post 7 by SilverLightning (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Sunday, 13-Nov-2016 16:51:14

I don't know much about babies, admittedly, but being underweight seems
like a valid reason to me. Besides, judging from your other board, it didn't seem
like you were in the best position to take care of yourself, let alone him. Maybe
you should fix that before trying to get him back.

Post 8 by forereel (Just posting.) on Sunday, 13-Nov-2016 17:12:38

Sorry honey, but you have had to have more history.
They don't just call you up and come take your child.
A mother child relationship is sort of sacred.
What I mean, is social services tries to keep that union together.
The only way your child is just removed, is they have repeated calls of abuse or they see the abuse on the first call is major.
If not abuse, but the child is just dirty or something, they try to help you learn better care.
This topic should be removed from writers black I would say.
I am sorry for your loss however, because, a mother child union is sacred.
Maybe you'll now do the things they've been trying to get you to do, because you have a chance to reclaim your child.
They'll set up a program for you. Follow it, and you'll be well.
I know this from much personal experience with child services.
Not on my behalf, but due to other reasons.

Post 9 by forereel (Just posting.) on Sunday, 13-Nov-2016 17:19:35

Let me add.
I would have loved to soften my last post, but I couldn't tell you what was up, so to speak.
I will say again, that you can fix that history, if you desire. If not, you will be able to get visitations with him, just not keep him.
So, all is not so bad.
Visit him often if you decide he's to much to handle, and show him his mother cares, just isn't able.
That is a fact that is hard to face sometimes, but must be faced.
Everyone that can make a child isn't able to care for one.
Be well.

Post 10 by BellatrixLestrange (I'm here to give everyone a hard time lol!) on Monday, 14-Nov-2016 11:08:37

By they I did not mean social services or any of those people. There haven't een any abuse or neglect calls far as I know. His father tells me about those like the time when his cousin reported us the one time though they found nothing to warrant taking him way. I mean marshall's father's family. They are saying it's only temporary so a month. But still they did not consult me about it that is what I meant by my poem. I was putting my emotions into verse.

Post 11 by Shepherdwolf (I've now got the bronze prolific poster award! now going for the silver award!) on Monday, 14-Nov-2016 11:45:34

Um, wait a second. What?

Marshall's father's family has no right to take your child away. They can ask, they can plead, they can yell till they're blue in the face, but absolutely nothing entitles them to take Marshall away from you without legal intervention. If you let this happen, then I really hate to say this, but you're a lot more passive than I want to believe, even after everything else I've read in various other threads.

Someone swoop in and set me straight if there's some sort of wacky American law that actually lets the family of the other parent in a case like this actually do what Marshall's father's parents have apparently done. Because I don't even think she was married, only dating the guy.

Now, here's the thing, Trisha. If they had come to talk to you and tell you that they had serious concerns, and that they had a plan to take Marshall away to allow you to get on your feet, and were essentially trying to help you, then that's one thing. You have a right to refuse, but you also have the right to take them up on it if you want. But it doesn't look like that's what's happened here.
Oh, wait a moment. Aren't these the people from the family who advocate spanking? We went around that particular argument a long time ago so I won't get back into the relative good vs. bad angle of the spanking issue, but you seemed pretty dead set against having Marshall spanked, and I thought it was the parents of Marshall's dad who were so vehement about it.

So, with all this on the table, I'm going to ask one question, and fair warning, I'm not using kid gloves anymore.

What in the blue hell were you thinking?

Post 12 by Scarlett (move over school!) on Monday, 14-Nov-2016 13:02:49

Um, put your foot down and say no. Get others involved if you have to. But if you let people take your kid away, people who aren't social services and thus have no right to take your child, you only have yourself to blame for not standing up for yourself.

Post 13 by SilverLightning (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Monday, 14-Nov-2016 13:04:00

Yeah, that's called kidnapping, and its highly highly illegal. They can't keep
your baby from you. They could call CPS on you if they feel its needed, but they
can't just take the baby away. That's kidnapping, and if that is in fact what
happened, stop reading this sentence and call the police right this minute.

Post 14 by lalady (This site is so "educational") on Monday, 14-Nov-2016 13:12:23

Maybe there's more to this story than you are telling us, Patricia. But I suspect that you're not going to tell it until you're at least honest with yourself? Just my opinion for what it's worth.

Post 15 by SilverLightning (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Monday, 14-Nov-2016 13:27:45

I don't disagree. I'm sure there is a lot more to this story than we know.

Post 16 by forereel (Just posting.) on Monday, 14-Nov-2016 14:20:06

Ah. I'll have to agree with lalady completely.
You have been on this site long enough for me to know you aren't stupid, so you know they just can't show up and take your child.
Not even his dad can just take him, nor can you just take him without some proof of abuse.
Remember I told you you could go to a women's shelter, but you couldn't hide without proof of abuse?
If I remember correctly in another post you did say they offered to help you once, so maybe they are trying to help both you and his dad?

Post 17 by AgateRain (Believe it or not, everything on me and about me is real!) on Monday, 14-Nov-2016 18:15:35

Oh yeah, there is some family drama going on here that quite frankly, does not need to be on this site.

Post 18 by AgateRain (Believe it or not, everything on me and about me is real!) on Monday, 14-Nov-2016 18:18:00

And, yes, it is illegal for them to just take the baby, whatever the situation may be. If I were you, I would still take this time to get yourself together, so if you have to go to court over him, they won't have anything against you that would give them official custody of your child.

Post 19 by forereel (Just posting.) on Monday, 14-Nov-2016 18:55:41

Don't even need court. You just tell them to bring him back, or the police will.
Simple.

Post 20 by crazy_cat (Just a crazy cat) on Monday, 14-Nov-2016 20:44:49

If this situation is really this bad, then I do not understand why you were not willing to go to a women’s shelter when you had the chance. They would have been able to help you keep your child, and prevent the parents of your child’s father from taking your child away from you. But I honestly do not know why you would simply allow his parents to take your child away from you. It seems as though you are really not all that willing to do what you need to do to get yourself out of this situation. We can all provide you with advice on what to do, but you are the only one who can do something to change your situation.

Post 21 by chelslicious (like it or not, I'm gonna say what I mean. all the time.) on Monday, 14-Nov-2016 22:12:34

I'm sorry to hear that you had to have a rude awakening Trisha, but I hope you take this time to better your life as a whole, for your son, if not for yourself.
As for whether this was kidnapping or what, I won't comment--I suspect that we're only getting half-truths here, but whatever happens, I hope you make a wise decision from here on out, Trisha.

Post 22 by ADVOCATOR! (Finally getting on board!) on Tuesday, 15-Nov-2016 17:59:41

I do not trust the state services. You all know I'm pretty disabled. If the state I live in cared, I would be a lot less injured. However, they left me with my family for 13 years, while unspeakable deeds were being done.
I'm sorry, I don't know who's wrong. However, if the state is involved, it's probably a false report, and in the meantime, kids are being starved, molested sexually, and beaten within an inch of their lives, and the individual states don't care one, stinking, bit.
My teachers told my mom what I told them. You know what happened?
My stepdad came home, and said:
"You want child abuse?! I'll show you god damned child abuse!!!"
After that, my memory's fuzzy, because, I was thrown against a wall.
So, how can I believe Tricia's so horrible? I can't.
And, from books (biographies) I've read, the states still do not care.
Blessings,
Sarah

Post 23 by ADVOCATOR! (Finally getting on board!) on Tuesday, 15-Nov-2016 18:08:13

I do not know who is wrong or right. I'm just telling you, the state would rather take false accusations, than rescue children in major trouble. Several cases in the past twenty years, in Washington state alone, come to mind. 1 is a woman having the crap beaten out of her, on a houseboat, when her "darling loving husband," was supposed to care for her. Paid by the state, he was.
A child starved nearly to death, a girl sent home where she was beaten to death. A fourteen-year-old, looking no older than eight, for being starved. For all the cases mentioned, how many, do we not know about?
I'm not the only one who knew my situation. My friend's mom told me that she was glad, that someone was able to do what the state should have done, when I was 2.
Tricia, you do have rights.
Blessings,
Sarah

Post 24 by Shepherdwolf (I've now got the bronze prolific poster award! now going for the silver award!) on Tuesday, 15-Nov-2016 18:34:43

Sarah, in this case it's pretty clear that if the state was involved, it was somehow on behalf of Marshall's grandparents on his dad's side...but that seems fishy to me. What's more likely is that Marshall's grandparents on his dad's side just came and took the baby, purportedly to put him in a better environment. This wasn't, as far as I know, sanctioned by the state or anyone else. They just kind of...did it, and Trisha permitted it.

So, so conflicted on this whole thing. My emotions have actually run higher on this topic than I thought they would.

Post 25 by ADVOCATOR! (Finally getting on board!) on Tuesday, 15-Nov-2016 19:24:47

Mine too. They probably gave her a pretty song, and it ended with: "Trust us."
It's legal kidnapping, and taking advantage of someone who has been taught like most of us, to: "Shut up, cause you are blind, and don't know what you are talking about!"
Mind you all, this is only speculation, so I don't know anything. Please don't take my frustration to heart. I just don't have much to say about the states supporting the blind parents.
I have learned the hard way, that you got to really know someone, or some organized program, before you just say: "All right, I trust you."
I wish I knew then, what I know now. There's a lot of "Authority figures," that used their authority badly, with no guilt. I'm not saying Tricia's perfect. Nobody is. I'm saying, people can be used, or taken advantage of. People can hear the wolf talking like he's a sheep. When he takes off his costume, then you see his fangs and teeth.
I use these metafores, because, this is a writing topic. And, we all know the story, of the "Wolf in sheeps' clothing."
Got to head out.
Sarah

Post 26 by write away (The Zone's Blunt Object) on Friday, 18-Nov-2016 3:00:49

Slow down guys. too much speculation here. we're not getting the whole story I suspect. And honestly, I don't even think we need the whole story. I don't need it to say what i want to say here. First, Trisha, I'm sorry. Genuinely, I'm sorry for what happened to your son and you. REally. Because as a mother I can't imagine being bonded to my child and then having him taken away... but honestly. We told you months ago. I did, many others did... this sort of thing was bound to happen. I'm sorry it did. Your heart has been in the right place. I could see that. But know that if you and your son were adequately well together now, there would be no room and no right for anyone to come in and make a case for taking him away from you. You have to take this time to become a stronger, more skillful individual so you can be the best mother that Marshall deserves. You have time now... I now you're grieving for that bond, but go and get yourself straightened out. learn how to take better care of yourself. Learn how to cook. to clean. learn how to do better mobillity. so that you can do that stuff for your son so that he can be returned to you. Because here's what I think: I think if you didn't know deep down in your heart that you needed to make improvements, you would have fought Marshall's current guardians tooth and nail to make sure he wasn't taken away. I think deep down you know he needs better. so it hurt but you let himgo. and I also think that these people, whoever took him, didn't do it to be mean. They gave you guys a chance to be parants. No one was trying to knock down your door and take him away from you forceably at day one. They gave you a chance to make things better. they were alarmed now though--something alarmed them, and they felt the need to step in. So spanking or not, they felt your child's welfare was at stake with you as his caretaker. that's no small deal. I think it's in your best interest, if you knwo that Marshall is safe and well cared-for, if you can be sure of that, to just let him be and take the time to get better at stuff. Give him a chance to be cared for. Because I guarantee you he didn't get taken away for any small thing. There were reasons, I'm sure of it, and it's ok if you're not comfortable or unwilling to elaborate. Just do what's right; get the help you need and do the best to learn. whatever happens now, you have this chance to really improve things for yourself. And your son too whatever that may mean to him. I really am sorry though. Truly. And honestly, if you are willing to put a big effort into learning and improving yourself, I gladly step up to be there to give you any advice or to help in any way, absolutely no judgment. What's done is done now, and I see a lot of heartbreak, but also a lot of opportunity in your situation. I have no room to judge here. But we're fb friends; you know who I am on FB, so feel free to reach out. Really. And truly, good luck to you. and to marshall.